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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:29 am 
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Been chasing my jeep passion lately. Have a host of snaps on photobucket to show for it (mojavecliff). The D800 and LR4 are my go to tools and, while the subject and compositions are not wonderful, I'm keeping in tune with the tools of the photo habit. Lurking here at Gordon's shop keeps me up to speed on the camera and phtoto scene. cheers all.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:27 am 
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popo: I have yet to be interested in G+. I do still participate in several forums.

MrCliff: I am developing an itch to start restoring my 1998 Jeep Wrangler. I have been unable to start it since late 2012, and it has multiple mechanical problems, but the engine and transmission were still OK at that time, so I hope attention to the fuel delivery and electrical systems will have a positive result, and I can then get a mechanic to replace the front left steering knuckle.

Otherwise, I may sell it to someone who wants a project.

My shooting has been in the doldrums lately. Inspiration is difficult to find.

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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 2:35 am 
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I'm interested in getting my wife a new camera for her Bday. Can't just go buy her one though- she'll have to first want it and then pick it out. So the thing is how to help her want then pick a fujifilm model with no anti-alias filter. Hmmm.......

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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 3:58 pm 
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My wife has a May birthday; she will be nineteen yet again. :wink:

I know she likes the D7100 and Df, but she may murder me for spending the money on a D7100, while we have more pressing needs, and the Df is quite simply out of reach, for now. Perhaps an SB-700 or SB-910 would be more appropriate. She uses an SB-800 now, but the menu is a bit too intimidating for her, so she usually stays in BL-TTL. The SB-910, and especially SB-700, have switches that lessen the need to dive into the menus. (She shoots most cameras in full Manual Mode, not even using auto-ISO, so she is no beginner; it is the SB-800 menu that is the unique hindrance.)

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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2014 6:43 am 
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Just pondering the economics of our chosen hobby or, for some here, profession. In particular, the depreciation cost of kit.

My experience has been that, seeking to trade in the more popular brands of cameras to dealers resulted in offers that meant they had depreciated by 50% to 70% in three years or less. That is car-like depreciation. Auctions on ebay can double those amounts but only before taking off the ebay cut and despatch costs.

Does anyone know how the so-called premium brands such as Leica fare in terms of depreciation over a similar period? I am only talking about digital cameras, not older collectors pieces.


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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2014 7:22 am 
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The depreciation isn't exactly like cars, at least not for lenses. I'd say about 70% of the current market price is about right for a higher end lens in good condition, but it doesn't matter much if it is one day old or 5 years. Used is used, providing it is kept in decent working condition. Of course, the new price isn't always static either, so the used price will be impacted by changes in that too. With bodies, you get more of a drop over its sales lifetime, thus there will likely be a bigger drop from the original paid price, although as a % of then current new price it might not shift much.

Not looked at Leica much myself. You could check out the used dealers and compare.


Elsewhere: all going well, I should receive the Sigma 50 Art today :) Royal Fail have decided to be a day late on Special Delivery already...

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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2014 11:22 pm 
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I've read glass holds it's value better than bodies. Some glass appreciates. I remember being in awe of for example a F3 body some time back. Would not buy one now. For shorter time spans like 3 years I'd say it has a lot to do with the body. Here is the local asking price $ of a D700.
May 29 FT: Olympus OM-D EM5 for D700 $800 (Lomita) map

May 29 Nikon D700 Excellent working condition with 18,522 shutter count $1300 pic

May 28 Nikon D700, MB-D10, BL-3 $1650 (woodland hills) pic map

May 28 Nikon D700 Body Only Full Frame FX DSLR Camera $1250 (San Gabriel) pic

May 27 Nikon D700 w lenses & accessories $2700 (Glendale) pic

May 26 Nikon D700 w/ box and extra battery $1100 (Studio City)

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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 5:18 am 
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Interesting. A dealer here in the UK has five pre-owned D700 at prices ranging from £1060 to 1149 and three low-use D800 ranging between £1695 and £1895. Popo is right in that lenses are less affected than bodies but "normal/average" lenses can be hard hit too. In bodies, it seems to depend on whether a successor has been released. My RX100 for example has now been succeeded twice in the two years since I bought it, pretty much at launch. It was £480 back then but now, with new ones still available at £329 (after a Sony discount is applied), I would only get £130 from a dealer. Similar ratios apply to my D7000 and D600.

I had only been thinking about trading the RX100 but probably won't now as it's still a good camera - unless I finally can't resist the Fuji X100s or its successor.

What I haven't been able to find out is how Leica's digital kit fares. I can see Leica M9 bodies at £3000 against a launch price of about £5000 but what I don't know is how much dealers paid to obtain that stock. If, like more popular stock they apply more or less a 100% mark up, that implies a hit of £3500 to the first owner. On the other hand, if those figures are wildly out and the Leica held its value well, then there could be some financial sense in considering Leica ownership, quite apart from performance issues. Their lenses appear to hold their value but again I have no knowledge of what dealers pay for stock.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 3:10 am 
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M9 Bodies by owner and dealer in London area on Craigs list.


May 25 Leica M9 Camera £1800 pic photo/video - by owner

May 25 Leica M9 Camera W M8 Lightroom £2000 pic photo/video - by owner

May 25 Leica M9 W 35mm Summicron 90mm Tele Elmarit £2300 pic photo/video - by owner

May 25 Leica M9 Camera £1700 pic photo/video - by owner

May 25 Leica M9 Rangefinder £1800 pic photo/video - by owner

May 15 Leica M9 Black Paint 18.0 MP Digital Camera with 35mm Summilux ASPH Le £2300 pic photo/video - by dealer

Kind of interesting that there was one of these in the LA area.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:05 am 
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Michael Schumacher is out of coma! Great news! :D :D

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Fabulous news, indeed. Reading between the lines it may be a long time before his recovery is complete with all, or as near to it as makes no difference, of the old Michael back. After the injury he suffered and after such a long time in a coma that may be a tough ask but here's hoping, particularly for the sake of his family.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:58 pm 
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No joy on a camera for Wife's Bday- content with one she has. Now reading Ansel Adams book 'The Camera.' It has an insightful chapter or two on view camera movements and associated results. I look forward to the day when a 4x5 digital view camera is ~$2K. When that happens, I'm in. The depth of field that view cameras can deliver is fantastic. No interest in working with film so, will be waiting a bit.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:17 am 
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I am just thinking now, should I take the photography profession as a serious profession or should I continue photography as hobby.


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The surf has been lousy the last few weeks so no shots, :( going to Point Danger hoping some whales are close enough for a shot. Still winter and 21-22c today.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:22 am 
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Like I mentioned in the "What have you just bought?" topic I have recently acquired a BlackRapid shoulder strap. And I just wanted to mention that this is by far the best accessory I have bought for my camera in ages! It is just so comfortable even when walking with my 100-400 attached! I even rode my bike whilst having the BlackRapid with my 7D + 100-400 on my shoulder. Not a single worry that anything could go wrong, because it is just so sturdy. I am now asking myself the question why I didn't get one earlier...

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